Wednesday 04 December 2002

XFML meets MBTI

“XFML is a new format for providing hierarchical faceted metadata,” explained Mark Pilgrim, adding:

Frankly, I couldn’t make heads or tails of it until a kind soul (Albert de Klein) mocked up an XFML representation of Dive Into Accessibility, my tutorial on web accessibility techniques. Then it all became clear. (I can’t just look at the blueprints and know whether I like the house; I need to build the house and look at it. In Myers-Briggs-speak, I’m an S, not an N.)

I, on the other hand, am an N, not an S. In Myers-Briggs-speak, Mark has a natural preference for Sensation whereas I have a natural preference for iNtuition. I can look at the blueprint and figure out immediately that my office is way too close to the living room (I’m an Introvert too).

Some people hate the Myers-Briggs system with a passion (what type would they be, I wonder), others regard it as a fascinating way of explaining human behavior as well as a semi-reliable indicator of how individuals will behave in relationships. (I place a lot more trust in Myers-Briggs types than astrological signs.)

I suspect there’s a correlation between a person’s Myers-Briggs personality type and their blogging style. I already know that Loren Webster is an INTP (Introvert-Intuitive-Thinking-Perceiving) whereas Jeff Ward is an ENFP (Extravert-Intuitive-Feeling-Perceiving). I’m an INFJ (Introvert-Intuitive-Feeling-Judging).

Wouldn’t it be neat to have a central registry of Myers-Briggs Type Indicators for the inhabitants of our little corner of Blogaria? If you know your Myers-Briggs type, why not reveal it in a comment or send me an email? If you don’t yet know your type, you can take the Typology Test.

I could create a MySQL database that stored each blogger’s name, URL, email address, and an entirely subjective description of their blogging style then create a PHP page to list the results. Perhaps Mark Pilgrim could summarize the hierarchical faceted metadata using XFML.

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IXTJ. Neither quite N nor quite S. Betwixt and between, that's me.

I was S-er when I was younger.

Posted by: Dorothea Salo on 5 December 2002 at 12:13 AM

I'm INFP. Have been for years.

Posted by: Kevin Laurence on 5 December 2002 at 01:42 AM

I'd think that I'm ENTP with qualifications.

Extroverted, for the most part, except when my mild obsessive/compulsiveness kicks in (nothing serious but it does affect my behaviour at times).

Thinking, but because I'm raised by a psychologist who emphasised the importance of being aware of other people's feelings I as a very rational thinking child added "emotions" as a datatype to be considered in my thought processes.

So while I occasionally make decisions which look as if it is an emotionally based one it generally is a result of a "logical" process.

Don't like plans, generally. Prefer goals, knowing which direction you're taking. The rest tends to come from that.

This is fun.

Posted by: Baldur Bjarnason on 5 December 2002 at 02:02 AM

ISTP. Actually a weak S; strong everything else.

Posted by: Mark on 5 December 2002 at 02:04 AM

ptypes weblog:
http://ptypes.pitas.com/

PTypes Personality Types (same author) includes webloggers as examples in each type profile. Many of us identify as INFJ.

http://www.geocities.com/ptypes/
http://www.geocities.com/ptypes/avoidant.html

Posted by: Anita Rowland on 5 December 2002 at 02:06 AM

INFJ - very strong introvert, very weak intuitive, other 2 right in the middle.

at my last job, we did a mass meyer-briggs test and divided the room (only 30 people or so) into groups - somebody there who had been in a lot of groups that had done the test said that it was the most evenly divided group they'd ever seen.

I remember the most boistrous group there included the president and my cube neighbor, a 20-something Brit with a very cynical sense of humor. (also the guy that first showed me HTML, but that's another story.)

Posted by: Elaine Nelson on 5 December 2002 at 02:45 AM

INTJ

Posted by: Burningbird on 5 December 2002 at 04:23 AM

enfj

Posted by: Dave Rogers on 5 December 2002 at 04:46 AM

enfp and enfj counting upon my mood on taking the test I guess. At least when it was free. Most of the tests I find out there these days cost money.

Any free Keirsey testers out there worth their salt?

Posted by: Karl on 5 December 2002 at 05:31 AM

Following Dorothea's notation, xNxP. Default is probably INTP, with T/F score almost even, I/E less so, and very little S or J.

We did a similar bulk test to Elaine's on our futurist/'strategic foresight' course (Swinburne University, Melbourne: http://www.swin.edu.au/afi ). Fairly even balance of I/E, T/F and P/J, but _all_ N - no S at all. Figures, I guess.

There's a real need for a minor renotation of MBTI to handle those 'x' balances, though - x-I/E or x-T/F, for example, is distinctly different from all-the-way I or E, or T or F. Suggestions, anyone?

Posted by: Tom G. on 5 December 2002 at 08:34 AM

INTX

Posted by: Adina Levin on 5 December 2002 at 02:17 PM

INTJ.

I seem to take this test, or similar, every couple of years but always forget what I am. Therefore I can't tell if I have changed over the years or not.

Posted by: Andy Todd on 5 December 2002 at 07:47 PM

I'm an INTP, although I never *remember* that I'm an INTP, and most people around me would call me extroverted rather than introverted. I suspect that this is because I don't tend to take personality tests in company...

Posted by: Stuart Langridge on 5 December 2002 at 08:46 PM

INTJ, but with weak N and J.

Posted by: Ronaldo Ferraz on 6 December 2002 at 01:39 AM

INFP, with situational S and, as I work at Seabury longer and longer, an increasing propensity for J.

Posted by: AKMA on 6 December 2002 at 05:02 AM

INTJ

A few years back I came out an ENTP.

Posted by: Justin Thyme on 6 December 2002 at 11:57 AM

Rather than creating a central database with this data, have everyone store it themselves in their foaf file, foaf being RDF can store anything you want, and all we need to do to include a myers-briggs rating is invent a "predicate" for it, so I did, and now all you need to do to add it to your foaf is add:

INTP

to it (say underneath your mbox) see my foaf -http://jibbering.com/foaf.rdf .

This is much more interesting as we can combine it with other foaf stuff to come up with interesting conclusions.

Jim.

Posted by: Jim Ley on 6 December 2002 at 11:05 PM

Ooh, you don't escape the XML... (that'll teach me not to preview)

<myers:myersBriggs xmlns:myers="http://jibbering.com/2002/12/myers.rdf#" >INTP</myers:myersBriggs>

is what you should add, assuming you are also INTP...

Posted by: Jim Ley on 6 December 2002 at 11:25 PM

INFP, awareness of which brought with it escape from feeling like a social misfit. Now, many years later, I continue to see my NF characteristics as a gift. N getting stronger with each passing year; now I almost see better with my eyes closed.

Posted by: Mike James on 7 December 2002 at 05:12 AM

INTJ, last I checked - a few years ago. I expect that blogs suit IN types.. you're updating your diary, but you're on stage simulataneously (sort of)..

It'd be interesting to have an analyzer munge over blog entries predict MB type (given that people's responses to a quiz are unreliable), but this is probably too much to ask.

Posted by: Jeff Winkler on 7 December 2002 at 05:37 AM

INTP.

And is there something going on here? There seems to be a large number of Ixxx people in this list, especially for a bunch of people with weblogs.

Posted by: David on 7 December 2002 at 08:48 AM

INTJ : "Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on."

Well I have to say this leads me to call into doubt the validity of the test :-) I answered all thequestions as honestly as I could but I sure don't see myself in that description.

Posted by: The Dynamic Driveler on 7 December 2002 at 05:42 PM

We're going to be including this property within FOAF itself now, which simplifies the markup a little:

<foaf:myersBriggs>INTP</foaf:myersBriggs>

Currently I can only find two FOAF files with
this markup (mine and Jim's, predictably), and we're both INTPs...

Posted by: Dan Brickley on 17 December 2002 at 07:48 AM

INXX. for most part intp, though. depends on mood swings and whether i'm having PMS.

Posted by: the omnipresent me on 15 February 2003 at 08:51 PM

If you're really serious about the MBTI and your results, then you can't take the score at "face value" and assume it's right (especially if there's an X). In the first place, "strength" doesn't mean "strength of use" -- it only means clarity of preference.

The truth is, the whole "test" is just GIGO -- garbage in garbage out. Even the MBTI Step II is wrong between 25-75% of the time -- meaning at least one letter is usually off.

If you want to seriously learn what your best-fit type is, I recommend you VALIDATE the outcome properly. (I'm qualified to administer the instrument, and the emphasis is not on the "score" but on the validation process -- the client MUST *validate* the outcome for it to be valid. Get me? Anybody can take the dumb test -- who cares?)

There's a great book for about $5 that will help you validate properly:
http://www.16types.com/resource/Request.jsp?rView=ProductDetail&IItem=OID:16695

It's better than the descriptions floating around on the Net, which are full of bias.

If you want to learn more about the theory altogether, then any of the "Understanding Yourself and Others" from this source are wonderful, inexpensive booklets for doing so. They represent the "cutting edge" of this technology.

Enjoy!

-Vicky Jo :-D www.INFJ.com
PS: And nobody has "no S" -- if you understand the theory then you know what a stupid thing that is to say.

Posted by: Vicky Jo on 29 April 2003 at 01:47 PM

This discussion is now closed. My thanks to everyone who contributed.

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